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>> And welcome back inside
Mission Control Houston.

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[Inaudible] a look at Karen
Nyberg, her love of running,

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something she'll be doing quite
a bit of while she's in space.

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Joining me now, another
NASA astronaut Dottie

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Metcalf-Lindenburger,
also a pretty avid runner

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from what I understand.

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Dottie, thanks for being here.

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So real quick, you run
with Karen quite a bit

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>> Yeah. I did run with Karen
before she started training

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and back when we
didn't have kids

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and when we were doing this
during the shuttle days,

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I was running with her.

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We would meet once
a week at a track

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with several other astronauts
and do some interval training,

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and then we've had a chance
to do a marathon together,

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some relay races,
which are kind of fun

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because you drop a runner
off and then you have

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to go run your leg and then
you hand off to another one.

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So we've done that with
the [inaudible] too.

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And then, the most recent
time I had a chance to run

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with her was in Moscow.

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There was a race there.

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And it's -- it was a
totally different experience,

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and so that was two summers ago

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and we enjoyed cheering
each other on, and --

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as we made these laps around
the monument in Moscow.

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>> Very, very cool.

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Now, you, kind of like Karen,
you're really into running.

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It's a big part of your life.

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You really advocate it.

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You know, why?

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>> Why run?

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>> I'm one of those
people, I just --

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I can't run as hard as I try.

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>> Right. People always
say that, you know,

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my sport is like their workout

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for getting ready
for their sport.

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But that's one of the
reasons why I run is

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that you can do it anywhere.

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I was just out at Wallops and I
was running there on the island

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with another astronaut,
and it's really a sport

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that you can take
anywhere, even into space.

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And it's important
to do it in space.

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So I've enjoyed running on other
continents and in other states,

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and it's something that just
allows you to kind of get away

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from what you've been doing
for the day, and just kind

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of a nice release, burn off
some stress, or just think

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about something else
for a while.

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>> And now real quick,
running in space; I mean,

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you can't just -- we
have treadmills in space,

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but you can't just, you know,
turn it on and start running.

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>> That's right.

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It's actually important to strap
yourself down, that's going

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to add loading onto your
body, and we use that loading

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to help our bones
stay strong in space.

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And so the treadmill
was designed

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to have both an automatic
phase and then, also,

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a human propelled phase.

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And that's important as
well because as you are

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up in space longer, you want
to have some of that experience

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of really pushing off

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and generating your own
energy on the treadmill.

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So they have the
two different ways

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that you can work the treadmill,
but you have to strap down,

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and that's what adds loading
to the body and adds loading

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to the bones so that
they'll stay strong.

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And it gives you that
cardiovascular workout

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because that's something

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that decreases is your
endurance in space.

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So not only does bone density
decrease, but so does endurance,

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and it's in very important
to have that treadmill.

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>> And, you know, aside
from the treadmill,

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you told me you haven't had
a chance to run in space --

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>> Right.

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>> -- but you have worked out
in space quite a bit before.

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I mean, what are some of the
more common exercises also

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that the astronauts are doing
while they're up in space?

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>> Right. So I was
on a shuttle mission

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and we have an ergometer, which
is basically like a bicycle,

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and you could, again, do it,
like, just with different loads

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on it, and you would dial in
the load that you needed and try

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to do this at least every
other day while I was up there.

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Now, for space station
astronauts,

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it is really important to
work out every single day,

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and they have at least
two hours of exercise

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where they're lifting --

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>> Wow.

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>> -- on ARED, or they're
actually doing resistance

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on the advanced resistive
exercise device;

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and then they've also got either
CEVIS, which is a cycle --

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bicycle, and -- or the treadmill
to run on; so a combination

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of all that keeps them healthy
for the duration of, you know,

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upwards of 160 days in space.

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And so I really enjoyed
using the bicycle.

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It was kind of fun to say,
hey, I've biked halfway

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around the earth, or,
you know, I spent --

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if you spend like 90
minutes, you've done an orbit.

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And so I didn't quite make
a full orbit I don't think,

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but it's a -- it's quite
a long bicycle trip.

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But it was a good workout,
and when I returned home,

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I did notice that my endurance
had decreased a little bit

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in the time, but I felt
that at least I had tried

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to maintain a little bit
of it with the bicycle.

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>> Okay. Now, you're
into running.

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Karen's, you know, as we just
saw, really into running.

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Any advice?

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Anything that you could tell
someone like me who just,

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you know, can't get into it?

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You know, what really
drives you to --

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>> Well, some advice that I
would give is to start slow.

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Don't just go out
and say I'm going

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to run a marathon tomorrow,
because it's very difficult.

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>> That won't work?

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>> That's not going to work.

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So you want to start out
in chunks, and it's great

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to do it with other people.

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I think that's one of the
reasons I love running is

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that I've met many different
people throughout my journey

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since I've been running
since ninth grade,

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and just had the chance to
talk with different people.

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So meet up with a friend,
because you're definitely going

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to tag up with them,
you don't want

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to leave them hanging out there.

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So -- and then, find
something to run for.

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There's all these different
types of races that have causes,

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and it feels good to
run for someone else

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and to do it for the cause.

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So those three things
might help you get out.

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I've been trying to give some of
this advice to my own daughter

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because she's just starting
to do running in PE.

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And, again, she's starting
out with a small distance

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and she'll continue to
build up her endurance,

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and that's what people
need to do.

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But it's a lifelong sport.

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It's one you have to
listen to your body.

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You don't want to injure
yourself, so you do have

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to listen to your body and
that, but it's a great sport

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to take anywhere
-- even to space.

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>> Very cool.

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Hopefully, I can start
getting into it now.

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>> Yeah, I hope so.

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>> I'll go drag some

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of my friends off the
couch or something --

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>> Sounds good.

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>> -- and see what we can do.

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All right.

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Well, again, NASA astronaut
Dottie Metcalf-Lindenburger,

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thanks so much for joining
me today, giving a little bit

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of insight into why you and
Karen love running, what someone

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like me can do, and also
what they're doing in space.

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I really appreciate it.

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>> It was a pleasure.